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Name: Oxford Uni dumps on Ivy League Yeh!
Subject: Critics should learn to criticise
-- Feb 15, 2007 at 10:41AM
I like the album but have to side with the author in this debate, as you critics are merely asserting your opinion without clear reference to the songs (I'm thinking of the lyrics here). Examples of metaphor/allusions etc need to be given to back up your points!
n00bs!
Name: Seth
Subject: Score one for the benighted
-- Oct 25, 2006 at 12:50AM
Poor Jordan. Wow. Your "Supreme Clientele" review was insulting, patronizing, and humiliating. I can see from the comments it's generated that you've already been told these things, but I think your writing is so poor, and your understanding of your topic so dim, that it bears repeating, with a little pepper: STOP WRITING MUSIC REVIEWS BEFORE DOING RESEARCH ON THE MUSIC IN QUESTION. I have only rarely seen an individual so far out of his or her element as to grasp at straws like (absent) race critique and sample choices in a struggle to find appropriate descriptors for a CD…
Congratulations, you're not qualified to hold an opinion about anything related to Ghostface, Supreme Clientele, New York rap, and likely 21st Century music of any kind. I'm sure it's unpleasant knowing that the toe you dipped in these waters has been embarrassed and then bitten off; I hope that you don't lose all drive, though, because with some work (and a serious attention to detail) you might be able to redeem yourself. Until then, though, you will remain the man who wrote the single poorest and wrongheaded review of an album, EVER. Tough break(beat).
Name: Joey
Subject: Ignorance = bliss
-- Sep 14, 2006 at 11:09PM
"I've never been to 18th century Vienna, does that mean I can't write about Mozart?"
No, but if you are as ignorant about 18th century Vienna and classical music in general, any critique penned by you about one of his piano concertos will be about as useful and coherent as a drunk stenographer.
In your Jay-Z review linked about you say "There are few things I'm less informed about than gangsta rap," so at least you're willing to admit it.
You come across as a dilettante attempting to lift your own prestige by slamming a genre you know nothing about.
But hey, so long as you get to make your own dick feel bigger while sneering patronisingly at things you'll never understand, all is good in your world, right?
Name: Luke
Subject: this "review"
-- Feb 28, 2006 at 10:23PM
This is the worst "review" of any album a have ever read. This person is so detached he almost in space. Plus he has told straight up LIES about the lyrical content. Which is possibly the most complex and vocab heavy wordplay hip hop has seen
Name: Will
Subject: Review: Ghostface Killah's 'Supreme Clientele'
-- Feb 22, 2006 at 9:10AM
Then spend the rest of ur life bed ridden listning to theis classic album
Name: Will
Subject: Thomas
-- Feb 22, 2006 at 9:02AM
I hope you get hit by a car
Name: Ray
Subject: Review: Ghostface Killah's 'Supreme Clientele'
-- Feb 13, 2006 at 4:30PM
The "synthetic Glockenspiel" (heh) of 'Apollo Kids' is actually a direct lift of the title-track to the film 'Cool Breeze'. I will assume you also missed the clever lyrical allusions to the film that were scattered throughout the track? Each song on Supreme Clientele is built around a classic hip-hop sample, with Ghost using his "dada" lyrical delivery to make abstract reference to their origin and significance in rap. To those familiar with the 'Ultimate Breaks and Beats' series, to which this album is a direct homage, those "curious soundscapes" are no secret at all...Based on your review, I will assume you are quite unfamiliar with 'hip-hop culture'. I'm sure this is not necessarily your fault, but explains why your review sounds so disconnected from the source material. You might say your review is akin to someone trying to read Infinite Jest without first having a working knowledge of post-modern literature; if you haven't read Gravity's Rainbow, the Brockengespenst passages obviously won't resonate the way Wallace intended (to say the least...)
Name: An LSM Reader
Subject: Re: Ghostface
-- Dec 20, 2005 at 11:37PM
Hi E!
Name: AM
Subject: Review: Ghostface Killah's 'Supreme Clientele'
-- Nov 11, 2005 at 5:24PM
The song where he does a *tribute to Marvin Gaye, Biggie Smalls, and Tupac* is Ghost Deini... Ghostface's rhymes are far from generic and boring. Have you heard nutmeg?
Name: adam
Subject: MR HOFFMAN THE WORST REVIEW WRITER, IVE SEEN
-- Nov 1, 2005 at 3:52AM
WOT A FOOL!! YOU IDIOT,
ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE ALBUM BEFORE YOU START WRITING REVIEWS ABOUT IT, EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS ALL BULL***T
Name: Yoyo
Subject: Hmm...
-- Oct 14, 2005 at 1:43AM
UR A FUCKIN IDIOT! DID U EVEN LISTEN TO THE LYRICS ON THIS ALBUM? "Most of the CD features typical rhyming" R U A FUCKIN MORON OR SOMETHING!!! CHECK THIS OUT, WHY DONT U OPEN UP THIS CD, ACTUALLY PUT IN ON UR FUCKIN STEREO AND PAY ATTENTION TO WHAT THE FUCK GHOST IS SAYEN! HES TOP 5 DEAD OR ALIVE AND UR MISSIN SOME OF THE MOST COLORFUL ABSTRACT POETRY HIP HOP HAS TO OFFER! U R FUCKED BUD
Name: Dave
Subject: ur whole style is chump
-- Oct 5, 2005 at 9:58PM
if u think ghost is "no better or no worse" at rapping then the other clown in the game now u r not a fan of hip-hop. Since u r not a fan of the genre why dont u stick to reviewing music in a genre that u like and/or know something about. in closing, u r a 'tard.
Name: Charlie
Subject: Oh dear Hoffman
-- Oct 4, 2005 at 4:01PM
I'm sixteen years old, I love this album, and admire Ghost for his skills and I know full well that braggadocio is swaggering cockiness or boastful. Hoffman you are a clown.
Name: DC Native
Subject: Years Ago...Years Later
-- Sep 13, 2005 at 11:27PM
I listened to this able years ago when I listened to Hip-Hop, performed Hip-Hop, toured East Coast, MidWest, and before GRACE I was en route to NY and Philly on the underground with Apani B, opened for Wu in New Orleans (way before the tragic flooding). My mindset then would have me agree with many of the African - American's response at the writer's lack of understanding on the genre of Hip-Hop. But I jive take a different spin. What Ghost and others that have followed and reinvented themselves have done is likened to what Miles Davis did to America's only classical music JAZZ. He took fire and made it cool. Stripped the burning desire to be and replaced it with settling. Replaced a buring reverence for Adonai with a cold callous pursuit of mammon (money)
holla black
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: Booooo
-- Aug 8, 2005 at 7:18PM
If you can find me one teenage fan of this music who knows the word braggadocio I will buy you a popsicle.
Name: Roland Numark
Subject: Booooo
-- Aug 8, 2005 at 3:37PM
This is a truly awful review. There are statements revealing an obvious cluelessness when it comes to the ins and outs of the genre - "considering that the rhymes are the "star" of the hip-hop genre, "Supreme Clientele" is ever much a bore." - as well as stuff which is just plain stupid - "The current race crisis in New York is enough material to keep the entire Wu-Tang Syndicate occupied, wouldn't you think?". Hey, why stop there? Why, should anyone anywhere write any songs about anything other than race crises? That damn ignorant fool Muddy Waters, singing about he want to fuck when his native Mississippi is in racial turmoil. Similarly, that damned Marvin, singing about getting it on when black folks are getting beat down in the street. In fact, fuck the race crisis. The genocide in Sudan and the famine in Niger is way worse. Yes, every song ever should be about genocide and famine, because when that's going on nothing else does, you clown.
Also, analyzing the entire album's lyrical content just with "Supreme Clientele" sticks to the script about how tough Ghostface is, and how he'll fuck any nigga who gets in his way, and how all the bitches wanna suck his dick. Sure, whatever." is just incredibly bad reviewing. Would you even consider reviewing Miles Davis' Kind Of Blue with "Kind Of Blue sticks to the script with bluesy, mellow soloing and walking basslines. Sure, whatever." It tells you nothing about the album. You summarize the genre in an ignorant, layman fashion and expect that to suffice as a critique of a particular work. Hip hop is rooted in braggadocio, and Ghostface's artistry is in how he grows from the roots. If you can't see anything beyond stylistic functions of hip hop, then don't bother reviewing hip hop albums.
Name: mr motlagh
Subject: this is the most irrevelant review ever written
-- Apr 2, 2005 at 4:44PM
This is the most irrevelant, most biased review i have ever read. Mr Hoffman, do every one a favor, and stick to reviewing work that correlates in some ways to your own understanding of music and the culture that cultivates and breeds it. I see that you mention, "They Might be Giants" in your review. Most people who listen to GhostFace have never heard of that band. In fact, i mostly listen to indie rock now, but i know good music, or more important, relevent music when i here it, because before i was into Indie Rock, i grew up listening to Hip Hop, and was and still am a B-Boy. That was the culture that i grew up into and have an understanding of. I would never write a critique of, for example, or even attempt to, say Country Music, because i wouldn't know where it start. Unless i did a hell of amount of research, and still i would be left clueless, becuase if you don't feel it, you don't understand it. The same idea goes for PostModern art work, how would you be able to critique it without a starting place, meaning, without studying the ideas present? Everyone is entitled to opinins, but to pass yourself of as a critic is extremly problematic, and is so lame and ridiculious, that it can only cause anger. Look at all the responses, and thier tone. To say the least, this album is entertaining, witty, and GhostFace is a master MC with his worldplay. Its chalk full of emotion, power and storytelling. You sir are wrong, and i hope you learned a listen not to fuck with something that you have not an inkling of knowledge about.
Name: 'Poph
Subject: What the hell?
-- Mar 20, 2005 at 1:38AM
The Ghostface CD "Supreme Clientele" is a classic in the world of hip-hop. Nowadays, beats (and more importantly) catching the beat is what takes priority. Ghostface aka Pretty Tony aka Tony Starks aka Ghostdini aka The Wally Champ aka Tone Tana aka Ironman, definitely made an urban soul/hip-hop classic with this one. Every joint on the CD makes you feel something different inside (people such as yourself who obviously never grew up in the slums with rap and hiphop surrounding you at every turn) feet something different. But that's your right as an uptight man of your own "hood".
Name: lawrence edens
Subject: get out of here
-- Feb 3, 2005 at 2:50PM
shut the fuck up nigga. those lyrics are senseless because he made that way. we like that shit and no one likes to here something sane all the time. listen to the album again and again closely and see what i mean. you can't deny the god's talent
Name: jonathan
Subject: Review: Ghostface Killah's 'Supreme Clientele'
-- Jan 13, 2005 at 10:10PM
first of all, if your not a fan of rap music please leave it alone and go listen to your rock, classical or whatever. And this is an awful review by the way, there's more complaining about life for african-americas than the album itself, it's a wu-banger, dont get it misunderstood.
Name: Jay
Subject: ...
-- Dec 27, 2004 at 11:38PM
First off, you racist dimwits stereotyping each other can shut the fuck up now. Thanks.
To the person who reviewed this, let me say... your moronic self has no right to review hip hop. You just have too much of a narrowminded ignorant view on the genre(as evidenced by this ridiculous review of yours) to comprehend a near-classic album like this. It's not because you're white, not because you aren't "ghetto" or whatever other idiotic generalization has been thrown at you... it's simply because you're a twit, when it comes to hip-hop, at least. Anyone who calls Supreme Clientele, one of the most entertaining hip hop albums in recent memory a "bore" should have all of their opinions on hip hop discredited. Period. Stick to what you know next time, you won't make as much of a fool of yourself.
Thanks in advance for not replying, and have a nice day, Mr. Hoffman.
Name: I hate white people
Subject: your stupid ass
-- Nov 21, 2004 at 6:23PM
first they say we all look alike, now they say we rap alike....Go figure
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: A little late but here goes/...
-- Jul 24, 2004 at 5:14PM
Hello Mr.Peace Black -- When you are done sucking the resin out of the bong listen once more to all the other musicians you mention in your eloquent post. Marvin Gaye, Ella Fitzgerald, Nina Simone, Al Green. Now listen to Ghostface Killer.
If you REALLY can't find a difference between group A and group B, then I weep for you, friend.
No -- I don't want "you all" to sell crack to my kids (I don't have kids) but I wouldn't be unhappy if the African-American community woke up and realized how detrimental, idiotic and non-musical so much of (but not all of) rap music is.
I stand by every word of my years-old review.
Name: Peace Black
Subject: A little late but here goes/...
-- Jul 24, 2004 at 10:00AM
I just got off work, got home, lit up a big one and zoned out into some Ella Fitzgerald...and she always gets me thinking how black folk just get robbed blind every fucking day. Then i remember hearing mah nigga Ghost gots this Pretty Toni LP out so i
jump on the net to find some samples and i come across this shit. Ignorance is a motherfucker who keeps us all from coming together as one like it suppose to be..ONE NATION UNDER GOD(fuking politics..works great for them)I skimmed thruogh the reviews and yes,Mr. Hoffman is one of many who cannot relate or who just like stirring up shit.
All of todays music stems from one culture..need i mention more? Its funny how a lotta black folk wont listen to rock (OUR MUSIC) oh wait, NIGGER MUSIC. All of a sudden these white folk are rocking to our shit and seeming to forget it was "nigger music". All these genres.. punk, alternative, soft rock, hard rock, shit even country comes from the soul of all black folk. Now hip hop. that shit is soulful and soothing like Al Green on a warm summer nite. To me,Ghostface is Al Green, or Ella or Nina Or Marvin , that nigga is so deep u would die of sensory overload if u could see into his endless soul. I feel his pain, his joy, his anger, his hate,even his contempt for ignorance and yes i believe foul language is mothafucking necessary to get a fucking point across...and my point is, Mr. Hoffman,U R WITHOUT A SOUL. FUCK U and FUCK U TOO.WE ARE AWARE AND WE WILL REGAIN WHAT IS RIGHTFULLY OURS. Give a nigga some fucking credit or u still want us all to sell crack to yo kids?
Name: strife_h20
Subject: conflicts and contradictions...
-- Jul 24, 2004 at 9:03AM
ha ha ha ha im fukin laughin mah ass off... hide behind ur reveiws u fag fuks!!!!
Name: Sky Raider One
Subject: Bitch Ass Jordan Hoffam...Don't Know Shit
-- Jun 18, 2004 at 11:56PM
...You don't know it, and you ain't never gonna know it, 'cause you and ya whole fuckin' kidnapping,thieving, murdering, ancestors, never lived it...so eat a dick and die bitch and I hope you rest in pieces with Lucifer when you die Mr. Bitch Ass Jordan Hoffam
Name: Jeff
Subject: Review: Ghostface Killah's 'Supreme Clientele'
-- Jun 15, 2004 at 9:21PM
Dear Jordan,
From your incredibley dettached and self serving view you seem to only expose your fuckin ignorance. I think the most telling part of your review is the idea of ghostface using "the current race crisis in New York" as a means of exploiting a situation for personal gain. Cute, really I mean did you listen to the album? Do you have any understanding of the current state of Urban America? If not I suggest you take a listen to track 5, Ghost Deini. To imply that ghost uses an environment in which he (not you) was raised to further damage is the work of incredibley simple-minded social critic. I saw ghost last night in Chicago and I can tell you this, his words of change and personal empowerment will always do more to inspire good than you. Ask yourself this. Who do you inspire? What form of understanding do you advance? It obvious you are nice at commenting from the sidlines, but too full of yourself and your own opinions to go on the field to really find out. Well bitch I suggest you do a little more homework (ha) next time and stop being such a fuckin elitist nerd. Peace
Name: ben
Subject: jordan hoffman... what a freaking loser
-- Jun 8, 2004 at 11:21PM
i am very late on this review too. first, jordan types the word "nigga"... after stating that he himself is a white guy. i dont care who you are, you dont say or type that word unless you're black. what a freaking loser. second, this stupid idiot (jordan) disses on the harsh rhymes and lyrics, even though they arent that hard... im positive jordan didnt go thruogh anything that ghostace did growing up (projects vs. suburbs). jordan, why are you knocking something you dont even know about... BRAGGADOCIO is a huge part of hip hip. dont fucking ask why black kids like hip hop, thats like asking why white people like guns n roses or: lynrd skynrd... STUPID QUESTION. basically this is another "hip hop is over" review/article. its funny how the most nostalgic cats, are the ones were never a part of hip hop. hip hop isnt over it just started. anyway, jordan wrote this review in sweet home Alabama by a swamp inside of a "Neo Nazi" headquarters shack. note to empoyers: fire this ignorant inbred red neck fucking moron... if you havent already. than fuck you too.
Name: brad
Subject: Jordan Hoffman has No Clue!
-- Mar 29, 2004 at 4:15PM
I know I am very late on this review, but it was on google search list results looking for something from Ghostface killah. Plain and simple short and sweet, ill bet this Jordan guy is the head of A&R somewhere by now. I will not waste anyone's responding directly to Jordan's "review," i will simply say this is another case of history repeating itself. He simply doesn't have a clue, i don't care how many rap cds his mommy got for him as a kid! back to my point, did you know boys and girls that the prestigious jazz magazine Downbeat used to rank John Coltrane #5 on their ridiculous narrow minded Eurocentric list of greatest tenor sax players in Jazz? Guess who was #1 ? Jerry Mulligan! Who ??? and 'Trane is #5 Hmmm. They said Coltrane was crazy, Coltrane wrote the writer many letters requesting a meeting, saying politely he didn't think the reviewer understood what it was that he was trying to do with his music. Coltrane said that if he had to opportunity to sit down with the writer, he could explain it, and if the writer still wasn't convinced, they he had Coltrane's blessing to write whatever he wished. Downbeat Magazine never responded to Coltrane's requests, and seemed to ridicule him even more. Years later Downbeat went back and re-wrote all of the pervious reviews that had earlier trashed Coltrane's music. Even though Coltrane was as popular with his core audience as James Brown was with his, and played many times on the same venue. Hey , Who remember's in the early '80's when rap was getto? when you and some friends drank a pint of Mr. Boston's Blackberry Brandy before entering a 3 dollar Hip Hop party in Bronxriver Center? So this is why Mr. Hoffman doesn't get Ghostface's rhymes, Ghostface is for a sophisticated ecentric rap-retro pallet. Where did Mr. Hoffman hang back in the days, where did he first learn about rap, Madison Square Garden? makes you think, about history that is! They do it all the time, and they are doing it now, only this time with rap, .. the takeover that is. This is not necessarily along racial lines, but it has to do with a ignorant, narrow-minded Eurocentric world view. I'm sure Mc Search would have written a more informed review, but then again, I remember seeing Search doing the Wop in Latin Quarter back in '88, where was mr. Hoffman then?? he just doesn't get it, i don't think he's trying to be mean, he simply doesn't get it, or does he have a clue. does he know, or can he understand the the verse"..zulu nation, in the '80's in front of macy's, i start my own chapters!" it was right before the verse that he quoted, so no he didn't get it! this really comes down more real rap fans, and those with an interest in preserving black aesthetic forcing their way into this process of creative control. editors, writers, reviewers, publishers, etc should reflect the core community.take a look at the staff members of any of this outlets, that repackage what you live and experience, then reshape it, and resell it to you. most importantly don't support these outlets that don't reflect your views. It has been years since I have listened to hot97, and mtv, and vibe magazine is simply to gawk at every once in a while. Start right now, when you see the name Jordan Hoffman, let is register that he doesn't have a clue about rap! it's not that he isn't entitled to his narrow world view, it's simply that his points underscore the fact that he doesn't have a clue about many of the references of Ghostface, in my opinion is to rap what Coltrane is to Jazz, or Donny Hathaway was to R&B. The cut with Ghostface, Method Man , and Redman is one of the best those three have ever been together. Heck , even Redman steps up his game big time, 'cause anyone one who isn't star-struck knows that 50% of what Redman has ever done as been crap! That cut alone is one of raps greatest collaborations equal to Jazz's E.S.P. with Herbier Hancock, Tony Williams, and Miles Davis! Empower yourself, don't let these folks dictate to you what is vogue, this is why the usual suspects continue to write, give commentary, and dictate YOUR ascetic. If you don't believe me , do a Google, and pull of how Stanley Crouch was fired by one of the most "prestigious&qu ot; jazz magazines in the world. Any anyone under 60 , knows Stanley Crouch is a asshole, but what you don't question is the fact that he is an expert on Jazz, no matter how much of a bitter man he may be. Finally, those who control any of the "media" don't look like you, sound like you, or most importantly share your politics, don't support them, because they are not supporting you!
Name: Slangauxillary
Subject: Bow
-- Mar 24, 2004 at 9:40PM
Your thoughts are weak son.You even read the wrong tracklisting.Son You dont know what hip hop is.Your arms too short to box with God.Slime
Name: steve
Subject: you are wrong.
-- Jan 31, 2004 at 3:10PM
Hoffman, where is your smart-ass reply to the charge that you couldn't even keep song titles straight?
Perhaps the repeated calls of "Apollo kids live to spit the real" on the track weren't enough to clue you into the name of the track.
Name: Bob
Subject: ghostface album
-- Jan 22, 2004 at 1:24PM
This reviewer is a crackhead. I knew that when he opened the piece with a quote from the Simpsons. Besides, anyone who calls Ghostface's ill lyrics "no better or worse than all the others" is not qualified to speak about hip-hop. He even got the track names wrong. While I can agree that mainstream rap is headed in the wrong direction, this CD is one of the few exceptions to the bland, monotonous nature of commercial rap. It's a classic! Ghostface defies practically every rap cliche, and does it with style too. You misidentify the "Apollo Kids" track, and ignore all the other key tracks. No mention of "Cherchez La Ghost," "Wu Banga 101," "Child's Play," "One," or any of the other countless lyrical gems on this album. And how dare you remark about the "curious lyrical soundscapes rap producers like the RZA create." You're completeley clueless, what have you been smoking? You have proved that you have no right to review any hip-hop album.
Name: mb
Subject: Stop
-- Dec 23, 2003 at 12:40AM
Your review seemed quite revealing until you state that "most of the cd features typical rhyming." This was a blatant indicator that you really don't understand what is going on with this album or with hip hop in general. As I continued to read on, this became even more evident as you seem to reduce this album (consciously or subconsciously, I'm not sure which) to some modern day minstrel show. Although it is obvious that you are an educated individual, your oblique references to Nabakov, Semiotics, etc. only veil the fact that you do not have a working understanding of this culture, and therefore should not have even attempted a meaningful critique of this album.
Name: Zig Da Rekka
Subject: Relative
-- Dec 11, 2003 at 4:36AM
Ay Jordan I do not blame yu at all for your comments and opinions, you see music is all about relating. You never knew the lyfestyle & the culture so you cannot relate to it. Its the same way I cannot bear to listen to heavy metal cuz it sounds like brawls at a junkyard.
The key here though is that I will never review a rock album because I know that I cannot relate to it or even understand it. Advice for half price man, Do Not Review Stuff you Aint Into. Maybe you can write your li'l article about how bad hip hop is or a short comment but not a review aaight.
Name: sir Rhythmn
Subject: Big Ghost
-- Oct 16, 2003 at 4:01AM
This is why hip hop gets a bum rap. See these kinda catz that are so -called writers/editors are quick to jump on a moving spacehip called
hip hop (the music that's awakened any body dead or alive to a higher freq-purpose of all time). the truth will always win no matter how much dirt you throw because one day dirt will be thrown your way . as for this writer
thanx for acknowledging this cat because apparently his wordz are powerful and sucessful because he got you talking about what the universe wants spit out into this atmosphere see how powerful and great the universe is even when you don't wanna admit to greatness it alwayz prevails hahahahah.
your a funny cat but i like you because your the number 1 example of why you need to be educated like in chool but only the true school..
peace out yo 4 real!!@!!!
Name: Onesweettrio
Subject: Ghostface
-- Oct 11, 2003 at 4:09AM
Don't let the coal of vulgar language obscure the diamond of actual relavnet content.
Name: Onesweettrio
Subject: Ghostface
-- Oct 11, 2003 at 4:09AM
Don't let the coal of vulgar language obscure the diamond of actual relavnet content.
Name: dan weiss
Subject: stupidity
-- Aug 18, 2003 at 3:41AM
yo jordan,
check this album out again. You are overlooking some deep aspects to it. His triple metaphors and stream of consciousness are reasons alone to buy this album. Check out the beats on buck 50 and malcolm and listen to first of all the melody and non run of the mill sequencing. Check out how gza and ghostface compliment each other on wu banga. You really don't have a clue. Not a clue at all.
Name: Tobias
Subject: clouths
-- Jun 26, 2003 at 1:35AM
you rule
Name: Blaze
Subject: ...
-- Apr 23, 2003 at 8:18PM
Jesus....
All I have to say, is that anyone who starts off their album reviews with Simpsons quotes should Definitely NOT be reviewing Wu-Tang, hip-hop, or for that matter, black music in general all together. Stick to writing about Beastie Boys and Soul Coughing...cracker.
Name: Jon
Subject: i need
-- Oct 13, 2002 at 5:05PM
anyone have GHOSTFACE KILLAH's INSTRUMENTAL for the song "ALL THAT I GOT IS YOU"
if you do PLEASE e-mail me @ ProtoChronic420@msn. com
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: Its on !!!
-- Sep 30, 2002 at 2:23PM
An apology to the Black Community? No sir, that duty falls to you -- for implying that all black people would want to kill someone for not liking a specific rap star. I doubt the Rev. Al Sharpton, Dr. Cornel West and Jesse Jackson would endorse your jihad.
Name: Anthony
Subject: Its on !!!
-- Sep 30, 2002 at 8:05AM
All i have to say is take your ass to the Stat ! Broken down for your suburb ass is Staten Island NYC. And march your "know it all Ass " on the ferry boat to killa hill 10304 or also known as Park Hill Projects and tell them yourself or any of the people around there. And I assure you wont be back ! Can it be that it was oh so simple mutha fucka !! Get your punk ass stuck for the CREAM !!! And if you wrote about Mozart disrespecting him like you did Ghost he probably would jump up out the box and slap yo punk as well. But opinons are like Assholes everybody has one. And you keeping writing this shit and some one will find you Jordan and fuck you up real bad. The hunt is on !!!! Chew on that punk... You owe Ghost and the black community an apology. Or suffer the consequenses and prepare to get gun butted on your next venture into them streets. You do own the pencil and paper power but the killas own and do run those streets and they ARE WATCHING !!!
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: what do you know about hip hop !!
-- Sep 27, 2002 at 12:25PM
Dipshit --
I've never been to 18th century Vienna, does that mean I can't write about Mozart?
Putz.
Name: Anthony
Subject: what do you know about hip hop !!
-- Sep 27, 2002 at 12:03PM
First of all you comments are very silly. If you have never grew up in the ghetto dont come to the fucking ghetto because you wouldnt understand the ghetto !! So stay the fuck away from here JORDAN!! How dare you judge what your punk ass has never been through. You sit your lil skinny ass in that luxery office and write this crap! What do you know about Ghost what do you know about black kids or the hood for that matter. And since you are listening to his words SO CLOSELY ! It sounds like you have a jones for the man ! Since you like to be so critical and read so much did you read that ghost went to africa and mingled with his own people yours and mine where we all originated from AFRICA the motherland ??? NO ! Did you see that these lil black boys the WU have their own franchise chain of clothes whichs has been on the market since 92' ! NO ! Did you see they have a video game on a major market for games sony playstation ??? NO ! Did you see that they have kept the cd rolling on the shelves and got a standing O at every awards ceremony from the Vibe to Soul Train ?? No! why would people stand up and applaud a bunch of worthless black boys ?? Because they have made their mark in this world and took something that was negative and made it into a positive !! The Wu is a symbol of respect that put in its work ! From the Rza on down to Killa Army & Cream Team chump ! Since you so doubtful that ghost will slap a fool you try and see what happens? The Wu has been puttin people on with them from New York to Cali and Compton ! You just jealous! Dont be mad because your career is in the 9th inning sucker. Wu Tang Forever !!!! 36 chambers ! See ya when they free ya punx !!
Name: Alveatta Ferebee
Subject: The Rza
-- Nov 28, 2001 at 1:34PM
The Rza, creates a world of underground music, unlike any realm ever experienced. Chaotic, exclaiming, haunting samples of wailing voices and choirs lost amidst the oddly harmonious, yet clamoring of war drums. Each raw element delicately orchestrated to the dark voices of nine lyricists. The foundation of Wu-tang, is instrumental in evaluating the quality of the group as a whole and as individuals. The genius of nine, very distinct individuals creating a "parallel rhyme" a harmony of poets. 36 Chambers, Wu-Tang's debut album, and the solo releases of Method Man's: Metical, and Raekwon's: Only Built for Cuban Linxs were three of the most successful and anticipated releases in hip-hop. The fact that two of the albums were solo releases from a not quite established rap group, says a lot of the integrity of the group. We all know the history of groups disbanding in order to record solo releases, the albums barely go plastic. Wu-tang pulls it off everytime, now in the process of their third group album, as well as the individual group memmbers who have promptly put product to the streets for the past 5 years.
Name: Bergh
Subject: A non ignorant response
-- Oct 29, 2001 at 10:45AM
I'll stay away from all the stereotyped language and hope you read this. In my opinion, your background and lack of experience with rap lyricism does not enable you to appreciate this artist. I see actual artistic merit in Ghost's rhymes and I know there are other intelligent people who share my sentiments. If you don't normally deal in this culture, it is probably difficult to see much of it as anything more than ignorance and vulgarity, but I ASSURE you that there is a DEFINITE difference between Ghostface and other rappers. I look down on those people who cannot express criticism without reverting to foul language, and I would be willing to wager that most of those who left those responses are white males. Suburban youth has trivialized hip hop to the point where it is replete with 'wannabes' who will listen to almost anything, making stars out of less talented and creative artists. Note the misspellings like 'wuz' and 'beliva', a sure sign of someone who is unaware of how stereotyped he or she sounds; classic indicaters that the response was left by some misguided caucasian youth.
Name: Ghostisthebest
Subject: Dickhead
-- Oct 11, 2001 at 2:55PM
You muth f cka, you better leave these f ckin' hiphop reviews to someone who knows what the f ck he talking about.
Name: TruGhostbeliva
Subject: Thisreviewisshit
-- Aug 23, 2001 at 9:10AM
Man wuz up wit you reviewing a brilliant rhymer and lyricists and putting it down, Jordan Hoffman i think you're in the business in reviewing gay ass pop and country music, boy you better shut that whole of yours and and screw yourself inside and out. Man if you're going to review somethin have an open mind or better yet stick to you're gay ass shit,You retarded pen pushing asswipe....
Name: An LS.n Reader
Subject: fuck bitch
-- Aug 20, 2001 at 8:33PM
SAYIN THAT GHOST RHYMES LIKE ALL OTHER RAPPERS IS STUPID. GHOST IS ONE OF THE GREATEST LYRICISTS OF ALL TIME. DON'T REVIEW A HIP-HOP RECORD IF YOU DON'T KNOW A FUCKIN THING ABOUT IT.
Name: omarrobinson
Subject: angry mam
-- Aug 4, 2001 at 11:55AM
What you talking about is out of sync,because ghost album eats up most LP's out.He changes is style alover again from 36 to Ironman to WU-TANG FOREVER to Supreme Clientele shows versatility.Wu-tang is here forever mutha f ck r
Name: Angry Man
Subject: Non Hip Hop Reviewer
-- Jul 3, 2001 at 3:24AM
I hate when people who dont know ish about Hip Hop give reviews, SC is a near classic and this guy is talkin bout half the songs are terrible. So I guess songs like "Childs Play" and "We Made It" send a bad message with nothing but cursing (yeah right), you really need to sit down and listen to this LP or go listen to you country music and give some shitty ass reviews
Name: b
Subject: who is this guy?
-- Mar 20, 2001 at 9:25AM
that guy doesnt know jack.he said apollo kids he shouts out to big.did he even listen to the album or wu tang?
it was ghost dieni that he shouted big. and torture on the first wu album. first off that was meths second album. so hes about
2 wu albums about 9 solo albums a compilation album not to mention all the wu spin off albums
supreme clientele was one of the best albums ever. this guy has no clue what hes saying. leave it
to a whiteboy to say that what that dude says. and im white
Name: unruly fxck-up
Subject: nameless
-- Jan 5, 2001 at 7:51PM
i used to hate rap more than any other music genre in the entire world. i was your classic white-boy metal forever freak, but now i've changed my tune. after shelling out five bucks to check up on a recommendation from a friend on J5's Ep, i was amazed at what i've found. not only have the beats evolved to the level of beauty, the words are imaginative and creative. i don't know about everyone else out there, but i find it quite humorous to hear rappers state what a bad muthafucka they might be and how the can gun bitches like the baddest of em. so, to close this rambling statement, i think you should always take rap albums with a grain of salt. they're meant to be listened to while blazing up or at a party or in a car and whatnot. although, i'd never trade in a NIN album for any rap album in the world, they're still something i respect as an art and a pasttime.
Name: Hott Nikks
Subject: Ignorance
-- Aug 14, 2000 at 10:18PM
Next time, pick someone that knows about hip-hop to write a hip-hop review.. "Torture" on Wu-tang's first album? HAHAH.. Yeah right.. that's on Meth's and "We love you so" on Apollo Kids??? that's on Ghost Deini... Ignorance is bad, but in the case of a serious hip-hop review, it's unacceptable.. Peace
Name: weeds
Subject: no
-- Jul 1, 2000 at 2:22AM
now you may be good at reviewin' music. but yo, stick to somethin' you know about. hip-hop is a culture. if you dont know about it, then dont review it. supreme clientele is off the chain. if you really want to like it, blaze some fire. then you'll really see how good it is.
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: stick to Michael Bolton reviews
-- May 16, 2000 at 6:39PM
You claim that every other reviewer praised this album, but condemn my critique as being "the standard out of touch review."
Pick a position and stick with it.
Name: Noah Gigiliotti
Subject: stick to Michael Bolton reviews
-- May 16, 2000 at 3:37PM
I have never seen such a display of ignorance in a review in my life. Supreme Clientele is a hip hop classic that every other respected music publication has praised, yet you seem to use the standard out of touch review of the album. Your review was not only worthless but also completely unoriginal. I couldn't tell if you were trying to sound cliche when you say "it's fun to hear men cursing and acting tough." Wow I have never heard that observation of hip hop before! Stick to reviewing music you're comfortable with like Michael Bolton or Kenny G. In so many words your review ws garbage and by your writing I can tell you are a bitter nerd lashing out at the bullies who once picked on you.
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: Semiotics
-- May 8, 2000 at 5:59PM
Pynchon, yes. Nabokov, not as much, or, at least, it wasn't as popular a practice at the time. Umberto Eco, yes.
Name: Brent Cowley
Subject: Semiotics
-- May 8, 2000 at 5:46PM
I guess I'm not that much of a disciple, 'cause I must admit, I had to look that one up. But, even with tongue-in-your-cheek, I'll take that as some type of compliment. Are Pynchon and Nabokov semiotic disciples as well?
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: No.
-- May 8, 2000 at 5:34PM
Mostly a joke. Brown was among the first major schools in the US to embrace the study of Semiotics, and you seem to be a disciple.
Name: Brent Cowley
Subject: No.
-- May 8, 2000 at 5:20PM
Why do you ask about Brown? I spent a summer across the way at RISD, but I am now at UCLA.
Is it my music tastes, or my pretense? I'm mighty curious.
Name: Mr. Fixit
Subject: Brown?
-- May 8, 2000 at 5:11PM
Brown?
Name: Jordan Hoffman Responds
Subject: Re: DADA
-- May 8, 2000 at 5:10PM
Brent--
I have seen Ghost Dog.
I suggest you take a look at my review of the new jay Z cd (http://www.LeisureSuit.net/Webzine/articles/jay_z.shtml) if you like this type of reading of hip-hop.
Did you go to Brown?
Name: Brent Cowley
Subject: DADA
-- May 8, 2000 at 4:45PM
yo, I see the dada and that's about the only reason I listen to the Wu-Tang Clan. I like Dylan and Beefheart and the Velvets and the Stooges and all that and I think Wu-Tang and Kool Keith are the only people making forward thinking, non-revisionist good music in this day and age. Pavement and Beck are good, but they're just genre-hopping. The DADA is essential, but the "kids" probably just assimilate into their system in the same moment as Jay-Z, Timbaland and Foxy Brown type bullshit. Rock and Roll lies in music like the RZA creates. Have you seen Ghost Dog?
"Peace", yeah right.
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