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Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: Dream Police -- Nov 3, 2005 at 8:06PM Uh, Mike, no. You're wrong. I just read through the liner notes from the Cheap Trick box set. You'll have to point out to me where it states that the Dream Police album was finished before the Budokan album hit it big in America. This just isn't true. I won't dispute that they were working on and nearly finished the album when Budokanwas released domestically in the US. (I bought it at least three months before this on Japanese import ...) If you could find any documentation stating that Cheap Trick had finished Dream Polic before releasing Live at Budokan, I'd love to see it. Please, prove me wrong. And I'll stick to my guns - the album is disjointed and extremely half-assed, especially compared to Heaven Tonight, which is a great album of 70s. The truth is Nielsen was working from a huge stockpile of songs that he had written in the early 70s (stuff like Need Your Love, Gonna Raise Hell and Dream Police were floating around in one form or another for a good few years before being released on this album). You'd have to talk to Nielsen directly about each song to find out when each was written and then actually recorded. Dream Police was the start of Cheap Trick losing its way ... which is no crime. They put out four great albums in a row, and it's hard to maintain that sort of pace. But, again, Mike -- prove me wrong here.
Name: Mike Janowski Subject: Dream Police -- Nov 3, 2005 at 6:13PM Loved your article, but have to correct a typical mis-statement (typical because it's been made by many a person). "Dream Police" was recorded, mixed and in the can BEFORE the American chart success of "I Want You to Want Me"; and in fact, its release was delayed by several months as Epic rushed a domestic "Buddohkan" ; release to market and milked it for all they could. Thus, "Dream Police" is not: "...the band, disjointed by their massive worldwide success, trying to remember how they did it in the first place and not quite getting there." It is the fourth Cheap Trick record, and unfortunately, is misunderstood because of the massive popularity of "I Want You..." For the real story about "Dream Police" all you have to do is read the liner notes in the box set "Sex in America"...that shouldn't be too difficult to research, now should it!
Name: Mr Egg Subject: Last Guy -- Jul 22, 2005 at 12:04PM What a nut.
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: Cheap Trick -- Feb 1, 2005 at 2:58PM Not so sure about your facts, asshole. I know the American release of Live at Budokan was delayed for a good year while Surrender did great on the singles charts and Heaven Tonight did all right on the album charts, but not quite sure the entire album was recorded BEFORE LaB. I think what you're trying to say, if you could put down the crack pipe for one minute, is that Dream Police was recorded BEFORE the American release of Live at Budokan. And I'm not even sure that's true. I suspect they sat on the album for a good year and edited whatever they had -- knocking out some tracks/adding others in the interim. Not BEFORE the tracks themselves were recorded for Live at Budokahn. Does that make sense to you? Or would you care to explain to me why there are NO TRACKS FROM DREAM POLICE (save Need Your Love ... which they had been kicking around the previous year or two in concert) on the Budokan album (not even the complete concert released years later)? "The label shelved the 4th studio album to give Budokan a chance to sell well & long before releasing Dream Police." Both albums were released in America in 1979. But let's not miss the main fact here -- the album still sounds a little off compared to the first four. Not crapping on anyone's arts, Einstein -- just giving an honest opinion. And Dream Police was surely not recorded before the band recorded the tracks in Japan for Live at Budokan. Get that shit out of your head right now.
Name: sav_sall@hotmail.com Subject: Cheap Trick -- Feb 1, 2005 at 2:25PM Way to diss AND miss. ["Dream Police", felt like what it was--the band, disjointed by their massive worldwide success, trying to remember how they did it in the first place and not quite getting there.] Dream Police was recorded BEFORE Live At Budokan was. The record label (Epic) was planning Dream Police's release when import copies of the Japan-only intended Budokan became an underground hit stateside. The label shelved the 4th studio album to give Budokan a chance to sell well & long before releasing Dream Police. This was good for sales of both albums. Next time, do your research before you crap on someone's art. -Sav-
Name: Patrick CAEN Subject: mail by Dan on Cheap Trick -- Jan 26, 2005 at 10:12AM Dear Dan, if you keep looking for Brahm Trakowsky, you'll never find anything. The man your in search of is BRAM TCHAIKOVSKY (a former member of Brititsh band The Motors). You'll find "Sara smiles" on the lp Strange man, changed man" issued on RADAR Records in 1979. Just to please, PC
Name: Dan Subject: Cheap Trick -- Dec 28, 2004 at 11:56PM You got them right on. Thanks for the site. Ever hear of a band call Brahm trakowski that made an EP with "Sara Smiles" That is a great late 70's song I could never find again. Ever hear Spooner from Madison, Wi. They went on to be Garbage but they were really cool.
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: Cheap Trick AND Pulp! -- Dec 31, 2003 at 7:02AM Sucking at music criticism is actually an attribute, so don't feel so bad. That was a good time for music, if you knew where to look. Sure didn't seem it at the time. Song you should tack down on the web to get another nice late 70s jolt: "Am I Ever Gonna See Your Face Again" by Angel City.
Name: ravenessa Subject: Cheap Trick AND Pulp! -- Dec 31, 2003 at 12:07AM Yeah! I love em both, too, and Cheap Trick definitely seduced me across the musical pop culture bridge from cheesy mall rat rock like KISS, to everything else like New Wave, Punk, Glam, etc. I keep having to look back at CT's influence on me because it keeps expanding, and being redifined and I keep hearing more bands from around that time who may have shared the sound in some ways but didn't have the impact (like Sweet,Prix, Queen and a bunch of other power pop and/or glam rock bands such as those on that Shake It Up power pop compilation) that CT did, on me. I suck at music criticism because I missed huge portions of "important stuff" that has come out over the years, so forgive me. Still, I relate to your time and place regarding this memorable band.
Name: ramon Subject: donbear -- Oct 15, 2002 at 10:39AM send me please the letter of the ghost town song
Name: Steve C Subject: Heaven Tonight -- Nov 10, 2001 at 6:29PM I recently rediscovered my love for this album. I had forgotten what this album was so important to me. Like the author of the article stated, this album was a coming together or all of their talents at once, and since then the band has failed to match the intensity and uniqueness of this album. My two favorites (besides Surrender, which drew my attention to the album in the first place) are California Man (which says ROCK AND ROLL) and Stiff Competition (a hard-hitting song, with a main riff I cannot get out of my head!) After recently finding this CD again after 20 years without the music, I feel 16 again. Yes, Heaven Tonight is still Heaven Today!
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: Albums -- Feb 7, 2001 at 4:44PM I won't argue with the statement that the first four Cheap Trick albums are great. But after that ... wooh, connect the dots. Dream Police was spotty, All Shook Up the same and One on One was where I officially stopped buying them on name alone. THere are good songs on all these albums, and even their later 80s and 90s stuff, but those first four are like the four horsemen of the metal-pop apocalypse, man. Have you heard Doulbe Live Gonzo, man? Intensities in 10 Cities? Just asking rhetorically, of course.
Name: Steve Subject: Albums -- Feb 7, 2001 at 3:38PM C'mon! Heaven Tonight is Cheap Tricks best album. Pretty much without a doubt. But is it really necessary to bash their other albums while praising the best. The truth is Cheap Trick, In Color, and Live at Budakon are great albums. I agree that live albums are totally stupid. But when a band gives themself a name for a live album. That's pretty cool!
Name: zoe Subject: Re: High Roller -- Jan 25, 2001 at 9:57PM mmmkay. i didn't mean you were stupid! i don't know much so it was just my opinion.
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: High Roller -- Jan 25, 2001 at 7:14AM I'm not stupid. Where' the irony? Would you like me to run off a direct quote from Robin Zander about the writing of the song, which strongly suggests there was nothing ironic in his intentions?
Name: zoe Subject: High Roller -- Jan 25, 2001 at 12:51AM in my opinion, that song isn't what it appears. some people might be stupid enough to think it is and to take it seriously in turn, but it always seemed to meant as a dark parody of some sort. that's the beauty of CT. they have a great grasp of irony.
Name: tony b. Subject: Excellent Review -- Oct 28, 2000 at 7:14AM You have written the best review for this album I've ever read. You blew me away when you wondered why CT never got hauled into court! I've always wondered about that. I think a lot of it is that CT never posed as heros/poets/cultural icons/pop culture authorities. They just wrote cool songs that covered a whole spectrum of emotions and never got stuck at the bottom or top. To some extent that's probably hindered them --- they've never been easy to pin down in any genre. I remember people being so damn baffled by them...Metal?Maybe. Bubblegum? A little. New Wave? Sorta... Rock 'n'Roll? DEFINITELY!!!!!!
Name: Shelley Subject: "Heaven Tonight" LP -- Oct 12, 2000 at 9:10AM Does anyone have Cheaptrick's "Heaven Tonight" LP they'd be willing to give up? I'd love to have it and would like it before Oct. 28th. Thanks!
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: My theory which is mine -- Jan 12, 2000 at 8:36PM Yes, Cheap Trick should have gotten dolled up in make-up designating them as various characters. The Weasel (Nielsen), The Bulldog (Carlos), The Eagle (Zander) and the Poodle (Petersson). They were too old to be bona fide members of the Army. The only kid I knew in the KISS Army was Billy Heiser, famous for pissing on hit radiators and going, "Man, dig that smell."
Name: Jordan@LeisureSuit.net Subject: My theory which is mine -- Jan 12, 2000 at 6:12PM Look at the picture you've got up here with the subtitle Not Your Average 70s Rockers. . . . Look at Tom Peterson. . . .is he ape-ing Gene Simmons? Tying his hair back into that little top-o-the-head ponytail, but letting it flow freely at his shoulders. . . .and the tongue? We all know the Trick were members of The Army (at least the parents were, when doing drugs on the couch!)
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: Guy Record From The Vault: Cheap Trick's 'Heaven Tonight' -- Oct 16, 1999 at 7:29PM Nothing against Cheap Trick's first album -- a good, raw workout that stands on its own merits. But I don't think the songs are as good. The weird thing about Cheap Trick is that many of the songs that appeared on their first three albums had been written in bits and pieces years before by Nielsen in bands like Fuse and Sick Man of Europe. All he did was stockpile them, take riffs from some and use some songs in their entirety on those first few albums. I think he wrote "Surrender" in the early 70s! The highlight of that first album for me is their cover of Terry Reid's "Speak Now (or Forever Hold Your Peace)." Choosing between their first and Heaven Tonight is like choosing between Cindy Crawford and Wynona Rider for a blind date. Pulp daft? No wonder you didn't sign your name!
Name: An LS.n Reader Subject: Guy Record From The Vault: Cheap Trick's 'Heaven Tonight' -- Oct 16, 1999 at 1:54PM C'mon! You would been a lot better off with Trick's first album.(And "pulp" are just plain daft)
Name: Smokey Subject: Trick -- Sep 14, 1999 at 3:34PM On top of the world and you CAN'T GET ANY HIGHER!!! Great article; I love Cheap Trick.
Name: William S. Repsher Responds Subject: Re: Trick -- Sep 14, 1999 at 10:54AM Let me tell you, Smokey, it wasn't easy -- it was hard as hell. I didn't get luck in a wishing well. I never worked so hard or had so much pain. But I wouldn't change for anything.
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