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Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
by Kerry Douglas Dye

published 12/20/99

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Kerry Douglas Dye is LeisureSuit.net's Manhattan-based Senior Editor.



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The opening vignettes actually ruined the movie for me. I kept looking for those co-incidences similar to those found in "Grand Canyon". Instead, it was two good stories (the similarities of dying jerk fathers & the wunderkinds before and after) with no interleaves.

-- Cad
Sep 17, 2007 at 1:59PM

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To the list of disappointing three-hour movies released this month, now add Magnolia, Paul Thomas Anderson's follow-up to his critically acclaimed Boogie Nights from 2 years ago. Rarely has so much talent in front of and behind the camera produced a film of so little consequence.

For all the hype, the movie is just another multi-threaded ensemble piece a la Short Cuts or Playing By Heart. Lacking either the life-affirming joy of the latter picture or the rabid bite of the former, all Magnolia has to vary the formula is some sort of Gen X-style metatextuality.

Where Short Cuts had an earthquake at the end to tie its characters together, Magnolia nudges viewers in the ribs and presents a [skip the next three words if you don't know and don't want it ruined for you] rain of frogs (while providing a quiz kid to inform us "this is something that happens," meaning, this is an actual rare scientific phenomenon, as opposed to some sort of cinematic symbolism). More significantly, the film is framed by vignettes illustrating how bizarre coincidences really do happen, and therefore we should suspend disbelief re. the coincidences in Magnolia's narrative. Unnecessary in principle (if I'm in a movie theatre seat I know this already), and even more bizarre considering that there are hardly any coincidences in the movie worth noting. Certainly a mere fraction of the number you'd get in your average Hollywood thriller, for example.

Encompassing 24 hours or so, the stories mostly revolve around two fathers, both dying of cancer, both with estranged children. Jimmy Gator (Philip Baker Hall) is the host of long-running quiz show "What Do Kids Know?", and Earl Partridge (Jason Robards) is its executive producer. Hmm . . . Gator, Partridge, frogs . . . let's take a moment to analyze this, shall we? Nah, fuck it, let's move on.

Anyway, "What Do Kids Know?" (with categories like "Authors, Chaos vs. Superstring, and Rub-A-Dub", not to mention the impossible Web address of www.wdkk?.com) is about to have its long-time record broken by a team of smart kids lead by Stanley Spector (Jeremy Blackman), who gets a really annoying speech about how precocious youth are not toys for the amusement of adults (a subject no doubt dear to Anderson's heart). Jimmy's daughter Claudia, who hates him, hooks up with earnest cop Jim Kurring (John C. Reilly)--their relationship is one of the film's bright spots. Meanwhile, there's also former quiz kid Donnie Smith (William H. Macy) running around town mooning after a beefy, braces-wearing bartender and bitching about how poor he is.

Earl Partridge, who's laid up on his death bed, has a repentant second wife named Linda (Julianne Moore), and a son, Frank Mackey (Tom Cruise), who sells seminars call "Seduce and Destroy" on how to, for example, turn your female friend into your sperm receptacle. Whenever Cruise is on the screen, offering such advice as "Respect the Cock", the movie is happening.

Magnolia doesn't exactly stumble over itself trying to please its audience--early on there are 3 consecutive scenes that involve some character screaming loudly and repeatedly, "get the fuck out" or "fuck you" or some variation on that thought. If I were in film school, I'd call that a "motif," but I'm not, so I'll call it "annoying." It's like listening to an endlessly ringing phone, or the incessant barking of dogs, a bit of aural unpleasantness which Anderson also includes in a couple of scenes.

If the film is "about" anything, it would have to be the way parents screw up their children. These stories are necessarily so small, arising out of a 24-hour time frame, that none of them particularly capture the imagination. Paul Thomas Anderson (sometimes called P.T. Anderson, either to put us in mind of great entertainer P.T. Barnum, or to steer us away from super-prolific porn actor/director Paul Thomas) is skilled with his actors, and Julianne Moore and Tom Cruise in particular turn in fantastic performances that'll probably get all sorts of Oscar attention. He also has strong technical skill, quirky vision, and knows how to put a scene together.

The problem is that he doesn't really have a story to tell. He's cobbled together a film full of good-enough characters and dramatic-enough scenes, but it doesn't hold together, or lead us anywhere, or leave us anything to take out of the theatre. It's all been done better before. Anderson's too good to be a one (or so) trick pony, but before he rushes his next movie into production, he ought to be sure he has a movie to make.


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Name: Cad
Subject: Magnolia
-- Sep 17, 2007 at 1:59PM
The opening vignettes actually ruined the movie for me. I kept looking for those co-incidences similar to those found in "Grand Canyon". Instead, it was two good stories (the similarities of dying jerk fathers & the wunderkinds before and after) with no interleaves.

Name: Ari
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Nov 17, 2006 at 1:49AM
I have good movie taste - magnolia is shit. No I did not say "the shit" it's SHIT as in A PIECE OF SHIT

Name: CTaylor
Subject: Magnolia
-- May 28, 2005 at 8:12PM
Magnolia is about the loss, which failure of communication inevitably brings into the human experience. If you do not see that i very much doubt your credentials. American cinema is too hooked on the expectation of a beginning and an end to a story - which is completely unrealistic in time. P.T. Anderson, a shortening of his name given to him by - the media - is one of the best American directors, by far to this date and perhaps the greatest living American director of his gerneration, which also happens to be my generation. You do not need to study film to enjoy the films he makes, although to write about them its probabaly not a bad idea. His influences are far and beyond commercial American cinema, but lets not exclude the rest of the world in film making and open our minds to greatness. Some of the best film makers of all time are in actuality from other nations and P.T. Anderson clearly has knowledge of them. I suggest you do some reading and watching to catch up with the times before you slander someones work. One P.T. Anderson scene is near impossible for most any other director out there to make. The detail, creativity, beauty, and yes even the melodrama are exactly what they are meant to be - a cinematic experience. His use of light is genius and rivals photographer Gregory Crudeson's. His stories are pieces, piece the viewer is expected to use their oen imagination to put together and adapt to in order to have an interactive role with the films he directs. For him to have made the great films he has all before turning 34 - well it MUCH more than i can say for most anyone. P.T. Anderson is as close as it comes to bringing concept and commercial together for a mainstream audience. What is concept. creation based on IDEAS rather than the ovious literal narrative that Hollywood cinema can be so predictable for. Lets hope his films NEVER get accepted by people to the degree that is alters his wonderful perception of failure and loss - sparked with moments of hope and an unknowing future. Someday i think you may look back on this criticm and think twice about it, i certainly hope so. Now that is 2005 and Punch Drunk Love has been added to his diverse lineup of screen adaptations, it may be the perfect time. This was a classic and you missed out.

Name: donna
Subject: magnolia
-- May 20, 2005 at 10:40PM
kerry - guess i can't go by your reviews. i love magnolia - can watch it over and over. you must be missing something.

Name: Rusty
Subject: Magnolia......
-- Mar 1, 2005 at 11:41AM
Ok Kerry! 1-1

What did you think of the Woodsmen?

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: I agree with Wasgreen, Crap Critic's
-- Mar 1, 2005 at 10:15AM
Of course I know my ass from my elbow ... The one you are not invited to kiss is my elbow. The other is my ass.

Name: Rusty
Subject: I agree with Wasgreen, Crap Critic's
-- Mar 1, 2005 at 9:47AM
I thought Magnolia was a special film that still touches my emotions every time I listen to the fantastic Soundtrack by Aimee Mann. William H Macey was as prolific as ushal as were most of the characters in this modern day classic! (Did I say classic!) Thats fucking right! its a classic...Kerry Douglass obviously does not no her ass from her elbow....Get back in the Kicthen...

Name: An LS.n Reader
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Jan 16, 2005 at 5:41PM
Tom as usual, was so hot in that movie! A little warped, but HOT!!I felt sorry for him though...his inability to connect with women. You could tell he was hurting behind his "respect the cock, tame the cock " fascade. But, oh he's hot!

Name: gump
Subject: Magnolia
-- Jan 16, 2005 at 5:36PM
Tom Cruise...sorry

Name: gump
Subject: Magnolia
-- Jan 16, 2005 at 5:35PM
Tame Cruise can tame my cunt any day!

Name: wasgreen
Subject: Rubbish Review
-- Jan 6, 2005 at 5:52PM
A reviewer who thinks the main point "Magnolia" is trying to make is that 'parents screw up their kids' isn't worth the time of day. Like in 'Punch Drunk Love', possibly his best movie to date, Anderson again shows us the importance of love and taking a chance with it. He is one of the most influential voices in cinema today; without a doubt.

Name: Hbotis
Subject: waste of space
-- Sep 12, 2004 at 4:25AM
This review is a waste of space. Why a journo bothers to bitch about readers' comment is simply childish. I really do feel for those viewers who can't understand Magnolia - perhaps they are just blissful in their lives to even know they exist.
Love your work, P T! you ARE so important!!

Name: mr. yeh
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 1:05PM
I refuse to rent either movies...again, they're mainstream crapola.

5,000 people at 5.5 out of 10 stars can't be wrong
http://imdb.com/ title/tt0298814/

Men's soap opera, or WWF as we like to call it, stands for everything that I'm against for. I don't need to see the MPAA put The Rock in an f'n action movie, thank you.

Name: mr. yeh
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 12:58PM
So you found nothing original in Rushmore or Royal Tenenbaums ? But you enjoyed Lost in Translation as much as I ? I don't understand you.


Are you THEE Mr. Dye that directed Ultra Christ?


Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 12:22PM
Yeah, yeah, blah blah. I can't believe I feel the need to respond:

Good but not great:
> City of God

Very so-so:
> Hard Eight
> Bottle Rocket
> Rushmore
> Royal Tenenbaums

Almost unwatchable:
> Pi

Haven't seen it:
> Requiem for a Dream (after Pi, I just couldn't bring myself to)

Congratulations. You like really bland movies.

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 12:06PM
> how can I argue with you?

But you *can* argue with me! You just need a little preparation first. For starters, complete the following tasks:

1. Rent The Core and 13th Warrior. They'd make a great double feature, in fact. That way, when you criticize them, you can know what you're talking about.

2. Look up the dictionary definition of "self-indulgent " (I use www.m-w.com). Make sure you understand the difference between this and integrating one's life into one's art.

3. Bite me.

Shit, that wasn't a very mature thing to say. I apologize. It's just that I just get tired of defending myself for disliking Magnolia. If you like it, fine, dude. There's no accounting for taste.

When you're a critic, you always get nailed for disliking an arty movie. See, people who like a particular arty movie are often really *proud* of themselves for liking it (I'm not saying this is you, I'm just saying some people), and they get pissy when you don't agree with them. Well, for the record, there are plenty of arty movies I do like, but this ain't one of them. Arty derivative crapola is still derivative crapola.

But listen -- about this, at least, you can rest easy: our reader base may consist of many simple-minded dorks, but I doubt they respect my reviews. (Many of them even post Yaks criticizing me, if you can imagine. We encourage that kind of open dialogue.)

Name: mr. no
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 11:44AM
we'll help you get started Kerry.

Instead of possibly writing another review of Freddy Vs. Jason, you may want to get these out.

Anderson's first film, Hard Eight.

Wes Anderson's
Bottle Rocket, Rushmore, Royal Tenenbaums,
And finally, Aronofsky's Pi and Requiem for a Dream.

Muchos Gracias !

P.S. The City of God may still be playing in your area. Highly recommended

Name: mr. yeh
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 11:36AM
#2, of course.

Anyone who openly admits to enjoying simple, linear movies, that have been done about 50 million times over, such as the 13th Warrior and The Core, both of which I've never seen, and have the decency to know better than to watch them, well, how can I argue with you ? You crticize anderson for being self-indulgent ? Hello ? 99.9% of every talented artist, whether he's a painter (Dali,Gogh, etc.) or a Director (won't even start a list), has integrated their life to his/her work. It's not a crime. (It shouldn't even be a factor in a review...at least he's written all of his movies)
I find it funny how you say in your PDL review that it's ok to be self-indulgent every now and then.

Your visitor base here is surely comprised of many, many simple minded dorks who respect your reviews, and that makes me sad.

"Memento might be too confusing for the majority of you.I suggest looking to see what Jennifer love Hewitt is working on " ?

If you want the respect of the other 1% of readers here that find MAgnolia to be an incredible movie, stop writing reviews for mainstream junk.

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: kerry,
-- Feb 24, 2004 at 9:44AM
Nah, I have no such document. But if you really care there's an advanced search page at:

http://www.leisu resuit.net/search.sh tml

Pick my name as an author and search for "best" or "top" and you can at least get my top picks for recent years.

(BTW, is this because you agree with my Magnolia review and want suggestions, or because you strongly disagree and want more ammunition to call me an asshole?)

Name: mr. yeah
Subject: kerry,
-- Feb 23, 2004 at 5:40PM
can you give me a quick 10 list of your favorite movies, thank you !

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: the past
-- Jan 19, 2004 at 10:46AM
Fine, the movie's thematically coherent. It still sucks.

Name: Brian
Subject: the past
-- Jan 18, 2004 at 11:17PM
"You may be through with the past but the past isn't through with you." Why hasn't anyone focussed on this quote. To me, this is the center of the movie. All of these characters are messed up because they failed to move on after something happened to them in their past. I think the film is showing that certain things happen to people by chance and the people that look into it too much or keep focussing on it can't cope with the rest of their life. The scene where the little kid is in the library when the frogs start raining down illustrates that he is capable of moving on.He says, "this is something that happens." When he's looking at the book during this scene there is a light emanating from the book. He see's the light, so to speak. He realizes this is just something that happens and that there is no real reason to dwell on it, kinda like so many people who watched this movie and didn't like it. They just kept talking about the frogs.

Name: Labor
Subject: The connection?
-- Mar 15, 2003 at 11:35PM
Everyone's looking for a connection-the thing that makes everything coincidence. The movie is called Magnolia, which is a very dense tree with many branches meandering out from a center. The tree is huge and branches can be far from the base, but they are all connected. Earl Partridge was the center of the tree, and he spawned misery from his TV production. I noticed that as he died, and once he was dead, everyone's problems started to go away. He touched everyone's life. Well that's what I get out of it anyway.

Name: Sam
Subject: I thought it was good
-- Feb 9, 2002 at 11:26PM
I'm glad I got this on DVD, cuz right in the middle of it I had to pee sooo bad! 3 hours that gripped me so much I didn't want to leave to go pee... and all I had to was pause it... THAT is a good movie.

Name: GILBERT WIAFE
Subject: PORN STAR
-- Feb 7, 2002 at 3:31PM
HOW CAN I BECOME A PORN STAR.

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: Wish they made glasses for Kerry's kind of myopia.
-- May 23, 2001 at 5:47PM
They do make glasses for my kind of myopia! I'm wearing them right now. They're stylish, yet give me just the sort of "nerd appeal" I need to look smarter than I am.

But what are you saying about Magnolia? Growing in critical estimation? That I missed. Anyone who likes the film is a fool. If they start liking it more, they're a bigger fool.

Name: Max
Subject: Wish they made glasses for Kerry's kind of myopia.
-- May 23, 2001 at 4:11PM
As Magnolia continues to grow in critical estimation, it becomes ever more abundantly clear why P. T. Anderson makes feature films and K. D. Dye writes reviews on the web.

Name: Sean
Subject: Magnolia: Not For The Faint of Attention Span
-- Mar 3, 2001 at 8:47AM
In my opinion... taking an absolute viewpoint of this film -- either "Greatest Film Ever!" or "Shittiest Piece Of Shit Ever Shot!" -- is folly.

Magnolia, technically, is brilliant. Camera-wise, direction, et cetera, et cetera.

I think pretty much everyone can agree on that much.

It is also -three hours long-.

That's just about where the opinions start to diverge.

Some would say that the characters are interesting and sympathetic.

Others would call them whiny and intolerable.

While some appreciate what they call a sincere 'slice-of-life', a good friend of mine characterized it as 'emotional white noise -- three hours of the same frantic madness'.

The fact is that folks take absolute viewpoints on this film. The fact is that Magnolia is entirely -personal- film. I'm not about to call someone who hated this film a moron, or accuse anyone of not reading between the lines.

This movie is about very personal themes - I'm sure it was very cathartic for P.T. Anderson to write and direct. In my case (and in the case of many others) it overlaps with personal experience. We can connect to the themes or elements presented... perhaps we've had that experience with cancer, where everyone around us seems to have a cancer-related experience suddenly, or we're alienated and desperately in search of love. Maybe our parents ruined our lives. Maybe we seek redemption.

Or maybe you just think this movie is three hours long. *shrug*


I just think it's crazy to condemn it as pointless or tripe. It's self-indulgent, and narcissitic, sure. But it's for that very reason that it connects to some people... because they (we, really) happen to share some of the issues Paul Thomas Anderson deals with or suffers from.

That's about all I had to say.

Name: dave
Subject: jason is dumb
-- Jan 15, 2001 at 10:41PM
Jason, who posted on Jan 11, 2001 (1-11-1!) said that "All forms of entertainment will face embrace [sic] or opposition, but in this case if you didn't care for it you probably just didn't understand it". Jason, that sentence contradicts itself. If we're lucky, someone will contradict themselves within a paragraph, but you managed it in one sentence! This review is spot-on: Magnolia was a bunch of tripe, strung together in some sort of 'Lost Angeles' hopeless prayer from repreive from the depths . . .

Name: Jason
Subject: Why do you even try?
-- Jan 11, 2001 at 2:05AM
In my opinion taking a critical veiwpoint on film is not only degrading but piontless. P.T.Anderson's "film" will cater to a group of people young and old who are not afraid to face thier personal demons and accept the fact that there are still people out there that are sincere. There will be those like me who believe this film to be emotionally touching and inspiring;there will also be those too left brain oriantated (narrow minded) to understand the aesthetic point trying to be made. All forms of entertainment will face embrace or opposition, but in this case if you didn't care for it you probably just didn't understand it. Sorry you didn't have the pleasure.

Name: david
Subject: "if the film is about anything..."
-- Sep 7, 2000 at 2:50AM
The film is about forgiveness.

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: Your talking shit.
-- Jun 5, 2000 at 12:31PM
Very quotable. My two favorites:

"That type of mentallity would have the likes of james joyce and virginia woolfe wallowing in their graves."

"This film is a wonderful example of post-modernist brilliance"

Thanks for the laugh. :)

Name: Colm
Subject: Your talking shit.
-- Jun 5, 2000 at 12:22PM
I think you are missing the whole point of film if you think that a movie has to be tied up in the end for it to make sense. That type of mentallity would have the likes of james joyce and virginia woolfe wallowing in their graves. This film is a wonderful example of post-modernist brilliance, a film that has no beginning and no end, yet it tells a magnificent tale.
You are completely forgetting the social importance this film holds. It places men on a level higher than horny, stupid insensitive twats. The idea of the film is to explain to a lot of idiotic men who have been so taken in by this nonsensical masculine reaction to feminism, that they are completely wrong. Two of the characters, Jim, and Phil represent perfect examples of what men should be like, and not like those of T.J Mackey. There are an awful lot of men out there who are ashamed of how a great deal of our contemporaries act, and a film like Magnolia allows them to reaffirm that acting like a normal decent person, and keeping peoples feelings in mind, is what it is like to be a real man.

Name: alex penton
Subject: mag is so phat
-- Mar 17, 2000 at 12:19AM
i respect this film hugely for two reasons: firstly it's technical brilliance(i.e. acting, directing and special effects)and also for the stories it examines. I have not spoken to my dad for over a year for reasons to do with the fact he was a stuffed up drug addict while bringing me up- he was absolutely f**ked in every conceivable way as a father. Sure, i'm not the only person in the world with such a hopeless dad but still if magnolia had at all been sentimaental or unrealistic i would have known. it was honest and moving in dealing with issues of loneliness, fear and pain as well as being wonderfully playfull as well. The point i saw for the frogs
was that the pain etc was so intense that a stormor even earthquake(a la short cuts) would have not been enough of an event to symbolise the breaking of people's emotional barriers. I would check this reply for grammer so as to be taken seriously by you but you should learn that
there's more to life than
looking for spelling mistakes to increase ones sense of authority.

Name: eddie
Subject: magnolia
-- Feb 8, 2000 at 8:41AM
i thought this movie was great while it was draged out alittle to long and was somewhat on the sad side...everything gave strength to everything else...tom cruise preformance at the end with his father was truely a work of art as his role in the movie was the heart and sole of everything else while the other storylines werent bad either...the movie spoke about the lonelyness of everyday life and how people dont really interact with one another like in the barscean with the former smart kid when at the end his emotions and love came out in front of everyone and all they did was look at emm like he was nuts{and who could blame them}but his role just opened or eyes to certain peoples reality in life and there unhappyness and its there for a reason and that reason wount go away ontill you we do something about it like the song said and personally i thought it vary funny when cruises father even sang along close to the end...this film is a must see for any movie goer but theres one thing what was up with the frogs bit???

Name: Donny Beisbol
Subject: Reputation de-flowered
-- Jan 22, 2000 at 2:50PM
Thanks for the thanks and the agreement to the agreement ( ??? ) Alas, you have the excuse of 'film critic' to use in case you see another Anderson film. I, unfortunately, am a known cinephile and upstart indie filmmaker who had the misfortune of dragging 4 less film-literate friends to this massacre of the human attention span. Needless to say I'll be alone at the next new WES Anderson film, whatever that may be. Pity, P.T. isn't even the best filmmaker bearing his surname. I do however believe, once and for all, that this film showed us that Tom Cruise is ( besides being extremely annoying, but you already knew that ) what I would call "amorously ambiguous". Not that there's anything WRONG with that....


Beisbolfilms@aol.com

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: Crap-nolia
-- Jan 21, 2000 at 5:44PM
I hear ya.

I'm not responding just to agree with your agreement, but I wanted to thank you for the background on P.T. Anderson and his father issues.

It explains a thing or two, although I've had so much my fill of the man that I would probably be bored to find out that his father was a space alien with 9 testicles. It's going to be with great trepidation that I go to see Anderson's next picture.

Although, God help me, I probably will go to see it.

Name: Donny Beisbol
Subject: Crap-nolia
-- Jan 21, 2000 at 5:16PM
Good review! Leaving the theatre, I thought to myself "this is the best movie I have ever hated". So much of it was well-done, well-crafted, well-acted, yet it was, well, shit. Kind of like an overlong ( 3 hrs???) turd after a great meal... you can recognize some excellent tidbits in there, but you sure as hell wouldnt want to touch it and it definitely reeks. It should be noted that the 'director or should I say ringmaster's ' father was Ernie Anderson, known in Cleveland as Ghoulardi who hosted a late-nite sci-fi/ horror spoofy kinda show on local UHF TV. I'm a bit young, but I hear exploding frogs were one of his regular gags. Apparently P.T. sees himself in his dreams as the Cruise character, and Ghoulardi called him a 'cocksucker' an awful lot. Point taken, but we didn't need an epic telling of 'daddy is in TV and he's mean to me'. Really. I hate this movie. At least Boogie Nights had Heather Graham in tight shorts.

Name: Marq
Subject: mmmmmm..good!
-- Jan 19, 2000 at 6:03PM
Hot damn, this movie was fantastc!
A perfect day would include watching this(Magnolia), Fight Club, American Beauty, Being John Malkovich, and Eyes Wide Shut for a Sextuple-Bill! What a great year for film. oh, Dogma can join the list too.
God bless 1999!

Name: Dr. No
Subject: One More Thing!!
-- Jan 12, 2000 at 12:29AM
The highly entertaining prologue discusses great coincidences, and the presents this story as the biggest humdinger of em all.

Just what the fuck was the coincidence??? A bunch of miserable people all have the same phoen pre-fix?? There was no incident tying them together. At least not in the "Greek Tragedy" way the three from the introduction were.

Dammit, this movie blew!

The opening montage that I said I liked probably only excited me because it was reminiscient of the big "Magic Bus" sequence from GoodFellas. . . a real movie with characters and a point!

And one that was made by a director that fucked hot chicks like Isabella Rosselini, not goddamn professional rape victim Fiona Apple. (there---now THAT'S an intelligent arguement!)

Name: Dr. No
Subject: A Sucker Born Every Minute
-- Jan 12, 2000 at 12:25AM
And I am one, too, for I did not heed Mr. Dye's review and went out and saw this piece of trash anyway. Some thoughts:

The prologue was brilliant. The opening montage (to Aimee Mann's version of "One Is The lonliest Number") while ultimately meaningless, was nevertheless visually arresting and super-fun to watch. Once that ended, it was all downhill.

I didn't even like Tom Cruise's monologue about "respecting the cock, as I found it to just be an R rated version of a dated SNL sketch.

I found no mirth or transcendence in the much ballyhooed reptilian ending.

I, did, though enjoy the "everyone sing-along" bit, but this was such a thievary from "Nashville" (another film I don't like) that I was embarrased for the whole production. That the movie didn't end there, but decided to end again half hour later was ridiculous.

John C. Reilly & the Coke Girl was the only interesting storyline. Ol' PT 109 should have dithed everything else and focused on that story (as much as 1/10th of a movie can BE a story)

Why give Phillip Baker Hall that twist at the end? Did anyone give a shit? Was anyone surprised?

Unless the idea was to make Jason Robards' big speech an existential howl from the abyss a la Lucky in Beckett's "Waiting For Godot," it was ponderous, silly shit.

Props to PT, though, for having the grapefruit-sized balls to make a 3 hour movie with a major scene about having to take a whiz. How on EARTH did he get that past the producers? Oh, wait. . . .he was one!

Magnolia was probably better than Short Cuts, though. At least Magnolia features cool camera moves, good music, and one or two funny lines (examples: Bill Macy & Henry Gibson, another Nashville alum, trading gay quotes at the bar; John C. Reilly nervously explaning the circumstances in which he chooses iced coffee or, as he puts it, a warm cup.)

But overall, a disaster. . .let us never discuss it again!

Name: Joe
Subject: Magnolia
-- Jan 11, 2000 at 11:49PM

Better than Short Cuts, nothing short of phenomenal. This is a film everybody should see. If you don't get it, fuck you, you don't deserve to. It's a goddamn brilliant piece of work.

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: UKERRY DOUGLAS
-- Dec 27, 1999 at 10:47AM
Jeez, I hate not getting the last word, so I'll just say: See my previous comments.

Name: robbyrob
Subject: UKERRY DOUGLAS
-- Dec 25, 1999 at 8:55PM
the truth is kerry your review is inadequate and your insights non-existent. Further only the truly intellectually insufficient point to "multiple spelling and punctuation errors" as a way to justify their own lack of skill, I gather you imagine that you are a movie critic. It is a safe wager that your career will not advance past leisure suit.net. Poking fun at the cabbage metaphor is also pathetic, as that cabbage metaphor is far superior to the drivel in your review. keep your day job. and next time please, do a better job on my floors

Name: Kerry Douglas Dye Responds
Subject: Re: magnolia
-- Dec 23, 1999 at 2:41PM
So your theory is that it's my lack of education that prevents me from having any "urgentcy" about "disect"ing this movie? Fascinating. Always nice to be accused of intellectual insufficiency by someone given to multiple spelling and punctuation errors, not to mention "unexplicable" cabbage metaphors.

According to you, Magnolia is deep, and complicated, with an interesting underlying dynamic . . . I certainly credit a writer/director as intelligent as P.T. Anderson with packing his film with plenty of subtext. What you fail to defend is anything that's actually *on* screen.

I'm plenty capable of reading between the lines, but when the lines themselves are as dry and disorganized as in Magnolia, why should I spend the time ferreting out some mischievous filmmaker's little mind games?

I said that Magnolia is just an immature, self-consciously ironic knock-off of Short Cuts, and I stand by that assessment.

Now for other business: I can understand you getting my gender wrong--after all, how are you to know?--but please spell my name correctly. It's right there on the fucking page . . . or is between the lines the *only* place you read?

Name: moviebull
Subject: magnolia
-- Dec 23, 1999 at 2:02PM
By the way I truly believe this:
Kerri douglas Dyes review doesn't do the film any justice. After reading it I can only conclude she has as much of an ability to read between the lines as a cabbage has the ability to decide what it will have for dinner.This is a movie with urgentcy about finding a way through your own personal damage whether it be coming to terms with it, closing out chapters of your life or seeking redemption. Kerri Dye's inability to think outside of a box and understand the underlying dynamics of this movie baffles me, including all of the other reviewers that are panning this movie. There is an overall temperature change with this movie that coincides with it's given barometric weather conditions. The accomplishment of this is to take us through three different story lines experiencing a full plate of emotions including dread, disgust, anger, jealousy, frustration, denial, phoniness, selfishness, and love. The climax of the movie is brought about by the entire cast of character's inability to let go of their pains and move on. Yes, this movie is about unforseen circumstances but what reviewers are failing to grasp is the ability for life to throw something at you so unexplicable that it can change the tone of your own direction for good or bad. It will at least make you move and look at your alternatives. Yes, this is a deep and complicated movie. It should be viewed more than once.The movie deals with undeniable truths about ourselves. We can't move on unless we recognize them for what they are. To all reviewers:get a grip, go to school, get an education, and (God forbid) learn how to disect a film into its elements for those who can't think for themselves.

Name: SyD
Subject: Re: Magnolia
-- Dec 21, 1999 at 3:23PM
I was very disappointed by this movie. Yes, the acting was great but I felt really confused trying to piece all plot lines together. I guess I just don't like Avant Garde.

Name: Natty
Subject: Review: P.T. Anderson's Magnolia
-- Dec 21, 1999 at 11:48AM
Brilliant movie!! Kudos to the all cast and especially to the CRUISE.
Ne is a courageous actor!

Name: Johnny5Ace
Subject: Magnolia
-- Dec 20, 1999 at 7:28AM
How disappointing. This is one of the few movies I've been looking forward to. I'll still probably see it, but I'll consider myself warned.

Boogie Nights was brilliant, and I imagine this will have to be a letdown after that.

Thank you for the terrific and hilarious review.


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